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THEOPHILE THE YOUNG continues his mentorship on the topic of death with his teacher, THEOPHILE THE ELDER. In this conversation, together they explore the idea of ‘dying to yourself’ during meditation.


Theo the Young: Some people say that with meditation we die before dying, or we die to ourselves. Would you mind telling me what it means?

Theophile the Elder: That’s a vast subject! Let’s start instead by doing an experiment if you don’t mind.
Sit very comfortably,
Plunge inside your heart,
Let you be absorbed in the light,
And get lost in it.

Silence

What can you see?

Y: The light loses its luminosity. It is a lightless light. I go on absorbing myself in the heart deeper and deeper. I can describe no more. Actually, I am drawn into a peaceful vacuum, where there are no reference points anymore. Everything is still. It is a no movement move.

E: Relax now, we shall speak together again after your meditation.

One hour passes

E: That’s all.

Theophile the Younger very gently ends his meditation, just as the Elder taught him. His consciousness emerges again in him. He lets it unfold in his inner space. He slowly comes up to the surface, step by step, gaining again his body, his feeling. Then he turns his attention outward and he notices the smiling old man facing him.

E: How long do you think you have meditated?

Y: Such as usual in my meditative experiences, I have the feeling that it lasts a few minutes, but this time I lost all awareness. I came back before you said, “That’s all.”

E: Try to recollect the state of extreme depth. What do you remember?

Y: A minute amount of consciousness remained. I existed without existing. Actually, something remained, but the notion of ‘self’ was lost. I think perhaps this was the higher Self.

E: The meditation lasted one hour.

Y: One hour! It seemed so brief!

E: For one hour, you died to yourself, though you were alive. That is a high level of consciousness. Higher than this is sahaj samadhi, when your consciousness is inside the depth of the Self and at the same time fully present in life, with others.


With the meditation posture,
body relaxation and Transmission,
you left your body consciousness behind,
then the consciousness of the Heart Region,
and went to the realm of cosmic consciousness,
the space of universal consciousness,
of the universal mind,
where we find inspiration, intuition,
premonitory dreams and even revelation,
either spiritual or scientific.

Y: Does a link exist between this and NDEs (Near Death Experiences)?

E: There are similarities. We consciously experience samadhi in meditation, whereas people often have NDEs during a surgical operation, a cardiac arrest, where they have a flat line electroencephalogram: they are clinically dead, but retain consciousness. The experience is so strong that they remember it long after it happened. Very often, this radically changes their life.

Y: Would you mind explaining to me what happened during meditation?

E: With the meditation posture, body relaxation and Transmission, you left your body consciousness behind, then the consciousness of the Heart Region, and went to the realm of cosmic consciousness, the space of universal consciousness, of the universal mind, where we find inspiration, intuition, premonitory dreams and even revelation, either spiritual or scientific.

Y: Do you think that great discoveries are coming from this dimension?

E: Yes, did you ever notice that great discoveries are sometimes simultaneously made in all four corners of the world?

Y: Do you mean that we can willingly tune in to information from the cosmic level?

E: That is the way it happens, but a certain level of consciousness and knowledge is required. Just as in the canonical book of Chinese Medicine, the Huangdi Nei Jing, Emperor Wuang Ti knows how to ask the right questions to his teacher, Qi Pa. Knowledge protects itself from itself. It can be accessed only under certain conditions… but that is another story.

Y: As you have made me aware, is the purification and enlightenment of the five points of the heart necessary as a preparation?  And maybe those of the following points as well?

The old man silently approves.



Article by PATRICK FLEURY



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